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White Hart White Heat White Trash: Spurs v. Liverpool Preview

Even in still photography the dude pisses me off.

Time: Sunday, 8:30am EST (1:30pm BST)
TV: FSC Plus for the Yanks, Sky for the Brits
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Finally, we get to wash out the taste of that loss to Stoke (it's basically tasted like overcooked eggs, in my mind). However, now comes a date at a ground where we haven't had the best of success. And there's still the lingering memory of Paul Konchesky stinkfisting our efforts to get what would have been a monumental win last season. Then again, had he not, maybe things would have turned around just slightly, and we'd still be stuck with Old Roy. Fate, up against your will and all that, right?

 

You'd like to think that after a Europa League trip to Greece that their drunken bullhorn of a manager hasn't stopped bitching about in weeks (God, I can't wait until he nosedives as an England manager) that this would be the time to catch Spurs. However, that was a youth and reserve side run out there, with the only things even resembling regulars were Sebastien Bassong, Jake Livermore, and Roman Pavlyuchenko starting, and none of them are close to automatic first 11 choices. Even Gio Dos Santos got a runout (how can he be so devastating for Mexico and so utterly, utterly crap for whatever club he's on this week?). So tired is not something they will be.

But injured yes. Michael Dawson is out, Ledley King faces a fitness test every morning just to eat breakfast, and Aaron Lennon and Rafael Van der Vaart are all not guaranteed to make it. If VDV can't go, and Luka Modric is still in a full out sulk about not getting to have his passes wasted by Fernando Torres, then the creativity in this side isn't all that impressive. And yes, I'm fully prepared to say that about a team that includes Greatest Player In The Galaxy Gareth Bale, who somehow parlayed two Champions League performances against a disinterested and disintegrating Inter side into Player of The Year status.

And that's where the most interesting decision of this game comes. Today, Kenny Dalglish was talking up Martin Skrtel having to deal with Bale, which makes me believe that Martin Kelly is actually fit and will probably get the nod. Don't know why I think that, I just do. Even though Bale is overrated by a factor of 12, that doesn't mean he isn't dangerous. And I doubt you'd want an out of position centerback dealing with what very well may be Spurs' main source of danger. Emanuel Adebayor is a danger for the three weeks he's interested, and sadly we're in those. He always seemed to score against us when he was a Gunner. Jermaine Defoe always gives me a fright too, with Redknapp probably replicating the 4-4-2 that won at Wolves if VDV can't go.

But a central pairing of King and Kaboul would surely see King limp off after 18 minutes of trying to follow Luis Suarez around. Other than the Skrtel-Kelly debate, the rest of the lineup is pretty much locked in, one would think. If Kelly starts, I think most of us would like to see Skrtel slide inside to partner Agger and Carragher out, but that almost certainly won't happen. It is unlikely that Andy Carroll is going to get a start now, but if he does he probably comes in for either  Kuyt or Henderson. But Adam and Lucas will get the middle, Enrique the left-back, Downing wide on the left and Suarez up top with either Kuyt or Carroll. Kuyt gives you the flexibility to go either 4-2-2-2 or 4-2-3-1, shifting out right in the latter with Henderson as the most forward midfielder. We'll have to see how big of a threat Kenny thinks Spurs are. If Kuyt's on the right, he does help cover Bale as well.

Even with the loss last week, Liverpool come in better form that Spurs, who only have the one league win and two absolute tea-baggings at the hands of both sides of Manchester. There's also the unrest part, with the whole Modric thing and Defoe rarely being a happy camper as well. We don't win in North London very often, I can't even remember if we've done the double away to both Arsenal and Spurs in my short fandom time. So  let's try it.

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Looking forward to this one.

Away at White Hart Lane against a depleted Tottenham side ought to be a good show of recovery for Liverpool after the clusterf*ck against Stoke.

Plus, I’m in NYC for the weekend, so this won’t be a 5:30 AM start time for me…

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by c_dowley on Sep 16, 2011 5:44 PM BST reply actions  

I don’t know how you do these early ones on the west coast, I’m not sure if I’ll be able to wake up that by 8:30! I guess I’ll just try to go to bed early Saturday… sigh…

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by iamrobk on Sep 16, 2011 6:08 PM BST up reply actions  

Depends on the start time.

For the 4:30 matches, I actually will usually take a really late nap the night before, then stay up through the match. I’m usually a useless wreck the rest of the day, but it works…

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by c_dowley on Sep 16, 2011 11:31 PM BST up reply actions  

Oh, shit, it's a Sunday match.

Thought it was tomorrow morning for some reason. I’ll be at the airport by the time it starts :/

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by c_dowley on Sep 16, 2011 11:32 PM BST up reply actions  

Three letters...

DVR. Luckily we moved from Cali in May back to the right coast. I go to Seattle a couple times a year. Fados Irish pub downtown used to DVR the early games and show them when they opened at 7am. Don’t know if they still do that though.

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by Bromantic on Sep 17, 2011 3:59 AM BST up reply actions  

I think Fado's still does, but I'm in Redmond, so that's less of an option

There IS a place near me that does, the Three Lions, but they’re primarily a Chelsea bar, so I have to fight to get them to show Liverpool matches. Not usually worth it.

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by c_dowley on Sep 17, 2011 6:10 AM BST up reply actions  

I would DVR it but I don’t have FSC+ (I only just got FSC at my apartment at school as it is, and I still don’t have it at my parents house). But I guess it’s not that bad if I just lay in bed with my laptop to stream it. Actually sounds pretty nice…

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by iamrobk on Sep 18, 2011 12:26 AM BST up reply actions  

Chelsea Fan

I recently joined Chelsea’s fan site. I kept reading about how Meireles is Xavi and Innesta rolled into one. I argued that he is no more than a decent passer who will work hard, and we need to stop making him out to be some dynamic force whos going to take the PL and CL by storm with Chelsea. They’ve done something where I can no long post there, so I wanted to ask you….is there something I’m missing and not seeing? or are Chelsea fans a bunch of loons not in touch with reality?

by Matthew Kent on Sep 17, 2011 12:47 AM BST reply actions  

Eh?

You talking about We Ain’t Got No History? Graham at least has been pretty realistic about Meireles, I think. Some of the commenters have gone pretty batty over him, but that’s just kind of what blog commenters do. As long as the authors keep an even keel, and I think they have, that’s all I ask for.

(Of course, I admit that I still like Meireles more than most Liverpool fans, but that’s another debate for another time)

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by c_dowley on Sep 17, 2011 1:39 AM BST up reply actions  

Well yes

Chekski fans are loons…or is it their owner for paying £50m for Torres. I do rate Meireles highly, but he is no superstar. He is an above average player who can slot in on the right team. I wish we hadn’t sold him, but I dont think he is Xavi or Iniesta, let alone a Xaviesta. He will provide a better form of service to Torres than the current Chelski midfield I believe and he may get Torres scoring again. His advanced roles should set him up to feed Torres the short through balls that he seems to thrive on. Time will tell, but he is older and they definitely paid a lot for him. Now Abromovich won’t be able to afford that second submarine for his yacht.

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by Bromantic on Sep 17, 2011 4:09 AM BST up reply actions  

The odd thing is, Meireles is really nothing like Xavi or Iniesta (MAYBE closer to Iniesta, but definitely nothing like Xavi).

But I was talking to them about Meireles back on deadline day, and at least then, they were happy but not ecstatic about it (to generalize). I think he had a really good game for them recently, though.

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by iamrobk on Sep 18, 2011 12:29 AM BST up reply actions  

If you're talking about WAGNH, I'm a bit confused.

Most of us think he’s a good player and adds quality depth, but he’s certainly not in the same realm as Iniesta or Xavi.

by Cablinasian on Sep 18, 2011 7:13 AM BST up reply actions  

Pretty excited for this game.

For years I’ve always loved the sport but could never really follow it here in the states. I always thought my problem with keeping up with the EPL was that I never had a team I called my own. Recently I decided to jump on with Liverpool, and this is my first game waking up early for (7:30 here in Chicago). Hopefully it will be a win to kick off hopefully a fun fanship.

by Lweb23 on Sep 18, 2011 12:34 AM BST reply actions  

I hope so too.

Welcome and cone back and join the discussions. It’s always nice to have fresh perspectives.

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by Bromantic on Sep 18, 2011 3:47 AM BST up reply actions  

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