Not What I Had Hoped for on So Many Levels: Liverpool 1 - Man U 2
Unfortunately a decent game of football is going to be forever overshadowed by a bunch of crap acts by two sets of players. I will discuss it briefly, but I don't want to lose sight of the fact that there actually was a game of football played. I loathe to admit it, but United were fully deserving of their three points. Liverpool opened the game brightly, but quickly faded and we were left with this final scoreline.
Come on Suarez! Why did you have to go and do that? As bitter of a pill as it would have been to swallow, just shake his hand and let's get on with life. Instead, I now have to sit here and talk about how two players pretty much acted like idiotic children. To me it was classless for Luis to do what he did. I understand where he was coming from and he was well within his rights to do it, but I still don't like it. He still believes he did nothing wrong and harbors a lot of bitterness towards Evra for everything that has happened to him. I understand why you wouldn't want to shake his hand. However, for the good of your team and the good of the league, you needed to just suck it up and do it. Evra initially tried to take the high road and force the handshake which was rebuffed. Rio Ferdinand then said no thanks to Suarez and then we were off on a feisty affair.
Liverpool started brightly. Suarez was almost sent through within the first minute as Ferdinand and Evra collided, but Gerrard uncharacteristically misplayed the pass. Liverpool did well to turn the screw with Johnson coming close right after cutting in on his left foot and nearly curling it into the corner with his left foot. However, Liverpool seemed to fade quickly after the first 15 minutes and United began to apply a little pressure, especially as Valencia ran Enrique ragged. Pepe was called into action a couple of times, most notably on a free Scholes header. Luckily the old ginger could only put it straight at Reina who did well to fight it off.
At halftime it was 0-0, but the fire had been lit. I don't know exactly what happened, but at some point Evra tried to talk to Suarez in the tunnel at halftime. This led to a scuffle which ultimately had to be broken up by police. We don't know all the details, but there are rumors that Evra actually tried to follow Suarez into the dressing room.
The second half was a tough watch for Liverpool fans. Shortly into the half on a United corner, a misplaced Henderson flick fell right to Rooney who made no mistake, blasting it on the volley into Reina's net. Three minutes later, I was fighting back the vomit as a misplaced pass from Spearing resulted in Rooney slotting the ball through Reina's legs. Liverpool were slow and sloppy, like a new porn star, and United fully deserved their lead.
However, the match became a bit more interesting (for football reasons this time) as Suarez latched onto a ball that had bounced off a United defender in the box from Charlie Adam's free kick. He left deGea with no chance as he blasted it home from 4 yards away. However, it wasn't meant to be. Liverpool had a few chances towards the end with Johnson forcing a good save from deGea who tipped his shot over the bar, but it wasn't meant to be.
Now I have to talk about the third crappy incident. After the game Evra was fired up and happy. I can't blame him. He took to running around Old Trafford getting the crowd pumped up about the victory. I have absolutely no problem with all of that. However, he felt it necessary to run right in front of Suarez and do it two feet away from him as Suarez was nearing the tunnel. Pepe and others obviously took exception to this and a small scuffle ensued. Evra had tried to take the high road initially with the handshake, but he quickly found himself rolling around in Suarez muck. Both players acted poorly and have now soured this game. I am sure that the Liverpool ownership cannot be thrilled with the way this has gone down at all and the light that the club has been painted in.
Bullets:
-Evra and Suarez were both out of line. It was childish and ridiculous.
-Downing was just horrible. This was really his first really bad game where he started on the left. He just seemed on a completely different planet than everyone else.
-At least Chelsea are dropping points too.
-Suarez scored, so that is good for the confidence, even if it was a gimme.
-Adam looked decent off the bench and finally delivered a quality set piece. I can't remember the last time that happened.
-Carroll had a few decent touches, but my God I wish he would stay on his feet and fight.
-This is no way as bad a result as some of our other crap games. Getting a point at Old Trafford is never easy.
-Time to move on a look forward. We don't have to play United again this year so we won't have the 4 weeks of media hype for the rest of our games either.
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Out of our 3 encounters this season, I actually think the match that United lost — the FA Cup match from a fortnight ago — was the one they played best in. I thought we were somewhat poor today and really poor back in October at Anfield. In my opinion, both league matches were actually just poor overall from both sides.
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I'll stay away from commenting on the Suarez/Evra fiasco over here :)
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I'd have to agree with you on this.
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by Bromantic on Feb 11, 2012 7:37 PM GMT via mobile up reply actions
I’ll make a larger post on other interesting things in the league later, but I wanted to quickly give my opinion on the Suarez debacle. In my opinion Suarez is becoming hard to like. I can’t support racism no matter what, and there is no doubt that Suarez has previously crossed the line. No excuses there. Evra is in the wrong on a separate issue. His whole career he’s been a whiny, annoying two year old which typifies United and their arrogant fanbase. Suarez must change but people like Evra do too.
by loyal2reds on Feb 11, 2012 7:34 PM GMT via mobile reply actions
Well
Suarez’ actions as a petulant, whiny player speak more to his unlikeability than anything that happened between he and Evra today.
And I already posted in the GDT my thoughts. It appears Suarez reached down to shake Evra’s hand, Evra pulled it back, and Suarez kept on going down the line.
Even if you think Suarez is the devil’s spawn, however, it doesn’t excuse any of Evra’s actions during the match and after the match. Apparently, he doesn’t know how to be the better man.
And apparently, Fergie has a really short memory.
Now with all that out of the way, I’m befuddled as to why Kenny went with the lineup that he did, today. United bossed the match so much in the first half that I expected Kenny to make some kind of a substitution at halftime.
He didn’t, our defence finally broke and allowed two strikes from Rooney that allowed Manure to win.
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by Brandon Bibb on Feb 11, 2012 7:57 PM GMT up reply actions
Henderson was key
I think his inability to play a decent ball really hurt Liverpool today. It was partly why Gerrard was forced so deep.
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by Bromantic on Feb 11, 2012 7:59 PM GMT via mobile up reply actions
I feel like the only decent ball played in by anyone all day was Charlie Adam’s right near the end.
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I agree that there is no place for racism anywhere, whether it’s football or in life. But, I also think that Suarez has gotten a really bad shake with this whole incident. I think that he has been made to look worse than he really is thanks to the biased narrative that the media plods out. I also don’t believe that he is a racist nor do I believe he should have gotten the 8 match ban. The evidence against him was thin at best and there were so many holes and gaps in the case, it was ridiculous. It came down to Suarez’s word versus Evra’s.
I believe that the FA decided to use Suarez as a scapegoat to make a statement against racism despite having so little evidence against him. To me, that is unfair and unjust. As much as I have no place for racism, I don’t believe in punishing someone on unsubstantiated grounds. Now Suarez will be labeled a racist and have a tarnished reputation, all thanks to a school yard he-said-she-said.
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by Mitchell Green on Feb 11, 2012 11:32 PM GMT up reply actions
about the evidence
I agree with some of this but not all. Suarez did admit to saying a certain word to Evra so there is no granting absolute innocence. Yes the ban was too harsh and yes he’s taken too much blame but racism is a sensitive subject and so people will subsequently react. He’s not a victim but he’s not a horrible person either.
You're right
Racism has no place in society, nor in sports.
But I also feel the same about lewd misogynistic remarks about an opponent’s sister. And I’m bewildered as to why the press in England have given Evra a pass for all this.
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by Brandon Bibb on Feb 12, 2012 6:57 AM GMT up reply actions
I’m not sure which side of the fence I’m on just yet, but I just wanted you guys to see this – it is not entirely clear who exactly refused the handshake:
http://www.thisisanfield.com/2012/02/video-evra-refuses-suarez-handshake/
Wow.
I didn’t notice that until seeing it just now. That sheds a whole new light on this whole situation. Now it seems as though Suarez really was ready to put this all behind him, and Evra wasn’t satisfied with that. Instead he did everything he could to sour Suarez’s reputation even further. What a fucking pussy. There’s a special place in hell for shit heads like him.
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I'll just throw out the possibility...
…that neither player was necessarily thrilled with the prospect of shaking hands with the other and leave it at that.
Suarez still had his petulant whining after a clean tackle in the first half and kicking the ball out of play after the whistle on his ledger while Evra’s got his ridiculous celebration and taunt in front of Suarez at the end of the match on his ledger. And he may or may not have tried to enter the LFC lockerroom at halftime.
Both players need to grow up.
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by Brandon Bibb on Feb 11, 2012 9:39 PM GMT up reply actions
I don't see how you can be upset about his reaction to the tackle from Ferdinand.
I understand it was clean, but look at it this way… Suarez doesn’t get the benefit of seeing 15 replays. All he has to go on is what he experiences, and all he knew was he was clean through, and all of a sudden he was taken down. I really doubt he was able to see and comprehend that Ferdinand got some of the ball before taking out his legs. So, when that is all he has to go on, I’m not at all surprised he was furious that it wasn’t a red card. I know I’ve done the exact same thing in a very similar situation.
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Honestly...
… it’s still not clear. Looks to me like Suarez might’ve reaching past Evra to De Gea.
Or they might’ve been feeling each other out, Evra waiting to see what Suarez was going to do, Suarez pulling back when Evra wasn’t immediately offering.
Either way, Evra made much more of the dispute than Suarez. Perhaps Suarez snubbed him, but Luis didn’t play the thing up all game long and after the game, and he didn’t do anything that necessitated police involvement.
I personally feel that Luis was already on his way towards DeGea. If he really wanted to shake Evra’s hand he would stopped and would have done so. He did not even make eye contact. My personal opinion, and I have watched the replay many times, the angle of a few still pictures makes it seem like he was extending his hand towards Evra but I just don’t think this is the case.
He did make a tweet after the match saying something about making things appear as they were not. I am not sure what to make of it. He basically took a vow of silence on the pitch towards Evra.
Defense Problems
Alright I’m going to blast our outside defenders for being outright terrible during the game.
Glen Johnson – Right D
Hey Glen do you see that D next to your name. That means that you actually need to play defense an not just fly up the wing. When you are defending on a corner kick, you need to stay between your man and the goal. Never leave your man until the ball is cleared, especially if your man is one of the leading scorers in the Premiership. If one man is going to beat you down the line, how the hell can you let it be Ryan Giggs? You are a fast player and the guy is almost old enough to be your dad.
Also when you go up the wing stay wide and don’t collapse into the center. The center is for the midfielders if they woud ever make a damn run forward. You and Dirk had no chemistry and there were several times that you two would be just standing next to each other.
Jose Enrique – Left D
Valencia made you look slow and lumbering today. I can’t even count the number of times Valencia or Rafael completely destroyed you and you were struggling to find something to hand on to. Also you never went forward and looked really shaky on the ball. You seemed to play absolutely scared and we can’t have that for our best defenders. I really hope that this performance was a reflection of your lingering injury, because this was one of your worst games this year. You know its not going to be a great game when he almost gave away a penalty in the first couple of minutes.
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It looked like he was still hobbled a bit, plus Valencia’s damned fast.
As for Johnson, I got nothin’.
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RADICAL IDEA
Why don’t we play Johnson as a winger? I feel like this would work. Kelly or someone could fill in at the back but Johnson could add a ton to the attack.
You know I've heard this idea before
when I say it about every game. Messing with ya loyal, cause I obviously think it’s a great idea and our best set. Kelly, Agger, Skrtel, Enrique (when all healthy) at the back, Spearing holding mid, Gerrard in the hole behind 2 strikers, Downing wide left with Johnson wide right, and then Suarez with Bellamy or Carroll up front (depending on Bells knees).
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by Mr. Sanchez on Feb 12, 2012 12:56 PM GMT up reply actions
to quote the great Jimmy Buffett
Breath in Breath out Move on.
no matter what the press does it does not matter we do not have to play those assholes again till next season so they no longer matter. We still have a lot to play for and for the most part we can control our own destiny
We have 4 home games coming up all should be very winnable
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good plan
we’re 4 points off 4th, and we still have a real chance of that and at least one cup, so this can be a decent overall.
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And of course ESPN Soccernet is reporting
that both King Kenny and Suarez have apologized for the “handshake incident” that overshadowed the game and the article goes on to report disgust by FSG for the actions of their player but not one mention of how Sir Alex, Patrice Evra and Man U should be made to apologize for their behavior and post-game quotes following the match.
While I do wish Suarez had swallowed his pride and gave him a quick greeting and hand shake, there is just as much blame to be shared with the shameful and disgraceful celebrations by Evra after the game that were obviously aimed at provoking Suarez into a further ban. But just as Evra managed to get Suarez an 8 match ban based on nothing more then speculation, He also does not have to issue an apology or serve a suspension based on his child-like behavior. Of course Evra and Fergie could have done “nothing wrong” as they play for the “FA’s money maker…”
If Evra really did try to start a fight at halftime by trying to enter the Liverpool dressing room then his actions were 50 times worse then Suarez refusing to shake his hand before the match.
I have seen incidents before with United and Fergie trying to prevent Liverpool from succeeding outside of their fixtures against one another but this is way over the top and they should absolutely be ashamed of themselves. I won’t blame Suarez if he decides to leave England in the summer but I will absolutely place full blame on United if it happens…
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