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Where I'm At With El Pistolero

I still want to love.

Ok, so I'm going to break a promise I made not two days ago. But ask the women in my life, that's kind of how I roll. That's why I'll die alone, ugly, and dead in the words of Moe. Besides, what woman could really love someone who spends his time breaking down Jay Spearing's game?

Anyway, this isn't about "the incident" or "the handshake" per se. It's probably just more to work out my own feelings on the whole thing and player, and you'll just have to deal with my psychosis.

Anyway, I think we can all agree that it hasn't been easy to be a supporter of Luis Suarez recently. But I think I know, or at least want to believe what's at the heart of it.

Here's what I want to believe: I think a lot of Suarez's problems or missteps are because he cares so much. I think Luis wants to win that bad. I don't like the diving and yelling at refs or opponents. But I don't get the impression it's all done in some self serving, aggrandizing way. That was the general impression I get from Christiano Ronaldo's antics, though that comes from a horribly biased position (though I'll freely admit he'll go down as one of the most exciting players I've ever seen). It always felt like Ronaldo took a call against him or a foul against him as just that, a foul against him. Maybe it's just because he wears our red, but I always feel that Suarez is just aggrieved at the missed chance to help his team win.

Maybe I'm just basing this on his reaction in the stands to Kuyt's winner against United. He looked like he belonged in the Kop, and maybe that's where he would have rather sat.

Does this excuse some of his latest actions? Of course not. But at the very base of it, and this is all just a theory of mine, but I think Suarez's anger stems from of a feeling of being robbed of a chance to help his team. To him, there probably isn't a bigger crime, if anything I'm prattling about here is even close to the case.

The American equivalent I keep coming back to is Rasheed Wallace. For those who didn't watch basketball the past couple decades, Rasheed was a wonderful player who had a nasty habit of picking up technical fouls for arguing with refs. He even set a season record for it. But almost always, he wasn't doing it to put himself on show or be the story. He just wanted to win so badly. He didn't channel that feeling correctly, and eventually never became quite the player he promised (and is almost certifiably nuts), but it came from a good place. It just manifested itself wrong.

I guess this will be proven right or wrong on where Suarez's Liverpool career goes from here. If he puts up four or five more years of excellent football without incident, we'll probably look back at it as a "teachable moment". It'll be where he learned what the limits are. I hope.

Again, all a theory, or maybe just a feeling or hope. But as horribly as Suarez has let his desire go wrong recently, I do believe it comes from the right place. If that makes any sense at all, which I'm not sure it does.

But then again, do any of our scrambled thoughts make sense?

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I like the Sheed comp

and was a huge fan of the 7’er.

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by Mr. Sanchez on Feb 16, 2012 10:56 PM GMT reply actions  

the lesson here...

Don’t buy players with previous biting incidents.

by loyal2reds on Feb 17, 2012 12:38 AM GMT reply actions  

Management

needs to get this guy some therapy. Biting is not normal, and is a sign that he has some other issues that need to be worked out.

He is a promising talent, and i hope he can realize his potential. I fear that if he doesnt have a great end of this season, he may be gone in the summer.

Whatever his anger issues are, he needs to let go of them, and then he can probably break through.

by cmttx on Feb 17, 2012 4:43 AM GMT up reply actions  

Hopefully he will get some goals soon because ball don’t lie

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by Waldo Rastel on Feb 17, 2012 12:54 AM GMT via Android app reply actions  

Well played sir

Bulls fans are still bitching about that.

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by SamFels on Feb 17, 2012 1:00 AM GMT up reply actions  

Damn it Sam

Just when I thought we were out you sucked us back in.

by NC Nole on Feb 17, 2012 1:02 AM GMT via mobile reply actions  

I'll have to post the ESPN Hope Solo spread now to redistract us.

I think that’s what Sam was secretly hoping for by writing this article.

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by Bromantic on Feb 17, 2012 1:37 AM GMT up reply actions  

Sorry

Just not a team player, I guess.

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by SamFels on Feb 17, 2012 3:09 AM GMT reply actions  

My few pennies worth...

Suarez is one of the best players Liverpool have owned in a long time. His cutting edge I believe is the fact he can use both feet so well and he works hard in the enemy half, however, I can not stand the bugger, a few years ago Gerard Houiler took a young Christiano Ronaldo on trial but described him as “immature” and we did not take up on him, of course he is an amazing player n’all but we had standards, did we ever see Michael Owen in the news as much for the wrong reasons.
I’m willing to give Suarez another chance but one more big issue with him and we should get rid of him, he has made us into such a hate-able team considering most neutrals used to root for us against the mancs but I have never seen so much hate to Liverpool its not nice.

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by Sir-Drunk-A-Lot on Feb 17, 2012 4:38 AM GMT reply actions  

Suarez

He’s a fierce competitor and he seems to have the respect of his teammates but he seems unable to see the big picture and unwilling or unable to control his emotions. Ultimately I think he means well, but he has a lot of growing up to do.

That said I think he is seriously hurting the team’s image right now and possibly making it less attractive to potential transfers. I think he is going to be sold in the summer transfer window. If the last Man U game had been a couple weeks earlier, he might have been sold by now.

by sacman701 on Feb 17, 2012 4:26 PM GMT reply actions  

No way

No way Suarez should be sold. He a great player. Great teams need a South American player. Look at Man City, Man U, Barca, Real, etc. And he is our guy. He has done great things with Uruguay almost every game he plays, he’s their best player. It would be a huge mistake to sell him. His South American player qualities like his off the ball movement and the high intensity are bar none.
He’s not racist, everyone knows this. Evra is a lying cheat and a cry baby, everyone knows this. He was wrongfuly suspended for 8 games (thats a lot) and people want him to suck it up and forget it. The man was cricified by everyone for being a racist. How would you react, shake the mans hand that put you on that crucifix?
The players all back him and we should too. They wore shirts with him on it when everyone else was saying he was a racist. They’re behind him. So am I. He will learn. AND he will get better.
He works hard for us and wants us to be great. I love him. Dont sell him.

by Shomer Shabbos on Feb 17, 2012 8:39 PM GMT reply actions  

I think you're right, Sam...

… and I’d refer to another incident: the WC handball. When he did it he immediately looked ashamed, but what else could he do? He had to give his team a chance to stay alive and he was willing to sacrifice himself and some measure of his own dignity to that end. He was crying in the tunnel when the penalty was taken, and his joyful reaction when it went off the bar was one of the most sincere expressions of emotion I’ve ever seen in sports.

There is a big difference between that and his other outbursts — the biting and race-baiting — but it all comes from the same place.

I think the reality is probably that Suarez is just a very immature person. Professionals shouldn’t let themselves get too high or too low, or they can get eaten alive. Suarez seems to be well-liked by everyone around him at both LFC and the national team, as well as Ajax, but more than one of them has said that he just doesn’t have an adult sense of propriety.

Too bad. Maybe it can be learned, but I expect we’ll have more outbursts in the future.

That said, I don’t think he should be sold. It would be difficult to get fair value for him, and players want to play for a team that will support them when the chips are down. It was right for the team to ask him to apologize, it was right for him to do it, and it is now right for the team to continue to support him rather than dump him off as soon as they can.

by kindred on Feb 17, 2012 10:12 PM GMT reply actions  

Damn... that was exactly what I was gonna say.

It takes a pretty selfless thought to take a game saving intentional handball that you know will get you a red card and turn you into a villain. But he did it because he wanted to do absolutely anything he could to help his team win. I’d say he definitely takes his winning desire too far on a far too regular basis. However, I think his heart is in the right place, and if he can learn to control himself he can still be successful here. My love for him has been shaken but not broken. I have far from given up on him.

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by blunatic on Feb 19, 2012 12:00 AM GMT up reply actions  

“Because he’s the hero Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So, we’ll hunt him, because he can take it.
Because he’s not our hero. He’s a silent guardian. A watchful protector. A Dark Knight.”

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by 253Sounder on Feb 20, 2012 1:57 AM GMT via Android app up reply actions  

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